PIAGET Altiplano Saga: Part 2 – GoldenEye – Automatic 12P movement

May 27, 2010,11:24 AM
 

PIAGET Altiplano Saga: Part 2  – GoldenEye  – Automatic 12P movement

By Melvyn Teillol-Foo

 

 


Automatic 12P (1960) and Manual 9P (1957) movements

Previously, in 'PIAGET Altiplano Saga: Part 1', click here , we covered the iconic manual winding 9P movement (above right).

 


1962 Advertisement
Piaget followed up on their early ultra-thin achievements with the introduction of the automatic 12P movement in 1960; at only 2.3mm high, it was the thinnest automatic movement of that Age.

 



The movement was 28.1mm x 2.30mm and ran at 19,800 A/h rate with a 40 hour autonomy. The 'ex-centred' 24K golden rotor or oscillating weight like a 'GoldenEye ' was the key component. The extra wide bridge for the oscillating weight ensured robustness despite the thinness of the movement.

This is also the movement that "Grail Watch" seekers purport to have powered a few mythical Automatic Piaget Polo watches even though the official launch of Piaget Polo watches was with quartz 7P movements.

Calibre 12P specifications:

37 hours power reserve
Frequency: 19'800 vph
Number of jewels: 30
Ø: 28,1mm
Thickness: 2.3mm for the basic model; 2.8mm for the 12PC movement (with calendar)
Ex-centred rotor in 24K gold
Functions: hour-minute
Vertical Côtes de Genève decoration

For over half a century, the Manufacture de Haute Horlogerie Piaget re-wrote records and filled the finest pages in the history of ultra-thin movements. In 1957, Piaget caused a sensation by developing Calibre 9P, the world’s thinnest mechanical hand-wound movement (2 mm). In 1959, Valentin Piaget filed a patent for Calibre 12P (2.3 mm), which was marketed in 1960 and set a new record for ultra-flat self-winding watches.


12P Ref 12103 white dial

Within an 18-carat yellow gold case, the Manufacture Piaget 12P ultra-thin mechanical self-winding movement purred. The movement dimension of only 12 ’’’ ( 28.1 mm diameter) and 2.30 mm height had set the world record of its day for thin watches. The 19 jewels ensured a steadfast 19,800 vph beat and approximately 40-hour power reserve derived from the 24-carat yellow gold oscillating weight.

 


Even in a closed case, the Piaget finishing was still impressive with: vertical Côtes de Genève, circular-grained plate, bevelled bridges, and that mesmerising gold rotor.  Even Piaget admit that the design was driven by the thin form and functional reliability rather than aesthetics. The wide bridges helped to resist warping but were not too elegant.  Then again, in those days, clients were more impressed by substance than 'flashy display backs'; performance rather than internal decoration. The lubricants of the day were not resistant to UV light and it served no purpose to be indiscrete with a 'see-through' case.

In any case (sic), Piaget focused on elegance and technical prowess to build their reputation at the pinnacle of the ultra-thin pyramid.


1965 Advertisement



 

12P Ref 12103-OJ yellow gold dial



 


12P Ref 12406 - laque

 

 

12P Ref 12406 black dial

 



12P Yellow Gold case/bracelet same pattern dial

 


12P White Gold case/bracelet and Ruby dial

 

 

Automatic Calendar 12PC movement models

With the added date display, the 12PC movement at 2.8 mm height was a tad thicker than the 12P.


12PC Ref 13103


 


12PC Ref 13401 A6




12PC Yellow/White/Pink Gold case/bracelet and dial

Building on their historical legitimacy, the Manufacture de Haute Horlogerie Piaget continued to cultivate its rich know-how in the highly technical and rarefied atmosphere of ultra-thin movements. More recently, these included the manual-wind 430P (2.1 mm thick), 438P and 450P movements used in the Altiplano models (see photo below).

 



2009 Advertisement

 

The future.......

Its been more than a decade since the iconic Calibre 12P was discontinued.

The modern automatic 540P, 800P and 850P movements are thin, but still not 'ultraflat' enough to join the Altiplano Saga.

The 'PIAGET Altiplano Saga' series continues next month with Part 3........

 

PIAGET Altiplano Saga series: 


Part 1 - The World is Not Thin Enough – Manual 9P movement:
piaget.watchprosite.com   


Part 2  – GoldenEye – Automatic 12P movement:
piaget.watchprosite.com


Part 3 – For Your Eyes Only – Enamel Altiplanos:
piaget.watchprosite.com


Part 4 – From La Côte-aux-Fées, With Love – Diamonds Are Forever (Exceptional Altiplanos):
piaget.watchprosite.com


Part 5 – The Living Daylights – Skeleton Altiplanos:
piaget.watchprosite.com


Part 6  – Never Say Never Thin Again – Automatic 1200P/1208P movements
piaget.watchprosite.com


Part 7  – Quantum of Solace – Special Altiplanos and Updates
piaget.watchprosite.com  
  

 

This message has been edited by MTF on 2013-09-16 05:32:04

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Interesting stuff and a great read....

 
 By: DRMW : May 27th, 2010-22:59
Thanks, awaiting Part3! -MW

I have a soft spot for Piaget

 
 By: Mostel : May 27th, 2010-23:52
but the right model hasn't shown itself yet... beautiful movement and cool history... design.

Very exciting

 
 By: cdbpp : May 28th, 2010-01:02
I have been searching for a 12p in a style that I like for years. A legendary movement. If they make an auto Altiplano please please please let it not be 40mm or bigger !! < 38 MM please ! And ideally sword type hands.... ;-)

Shout louder for the 40 mm.....

 
 By: MTF : May 28th, 2010-06:22
Indeed! The 38mm diameter automatic Altiplano may be difficult because modern movements may be ultra thn but need to be large diameter to achieve multiple functions in future. Piaget R&D worked on an automatic movement of 13 ¼ lignes, meaning 29.9 mm... 

Nice read. Thank you.

 
 By: VMM : May 28th, 2010-01:50
Piaget movements are a pleasure to the eye. HQ at its best. The new automatic ultra thin movement is stunning, was one of my fav novelties at the SIHH. Thanks for sharing. Vte

I agree and a look at the photo to prove it

 
 By: MTF : May 28th, 2010-06:42
Old 12P movement Old 12P and New 1208P movements New Altiplano Automatic with 1208P movement...  

Dear MTF, what an interesting and refreshing read in these times...

 
 By: Ornatus-Mundi : May 28th, 2010-07:26
of horological obesity ;-) Could you elaborate more on the signalling pathways involved (for the non-endocrinologists: the challenges posed in developing the movement and get it reliable)? Cheers and thanks, Magnus

THis question may be addressed

 
 By: MTF : May 30th, 2010-19:27
in a future report. Which, is another way to say that it will be..... MTF

It had never occurred to me...

 
 By: tony p : May 28th, 2010-19:52
...that one of the factors militating against display backs in the "old days" was the lack of UV resistant lubricants. You learn something every day! Thanks for the very informative report Melvyn. Can't resist appending a few of my own shots of the new 12...  

Nice report!

 
 By: patrick_y : May 30th, 2010-09:46
Very nice report! Thanks for sharing MTF! It is certainly amazing that an automatic movement can be so thin! Looking forward to part three...

Great report...

 
 By: Dino944 : June 2nd, 2010-08:26
Just seeing those photos makes me want to search for a vintage Piaget. Thanks for the excellent report, I am looking forward to the next one. Best regards, Dino

Great article, thanks Melvin. [nt]

 
 By: foversta : June 2nd, 2010-12:53
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The black dial cushion-cased...

 
 By: dxboon : June 2nd, 2010-20:24
...reference 12406 is so utterly gorgeous. Literally, my mouth is watering over it! Great article, MTF! I really enjoyed reading it. Thanks for enlightening us! Cheers, Daos

Maybe TV shaped?

 
 By: MTF : June 2nd, 2010-21:20
Daos< Agree - very classic colour combination and found on current Altiplano round models. Maybe its the TV-screen shaped case because it is longer horizontally than vertically. Regards, MTF